Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  How to get my kids out

  by SaneAgain in

  1. social
  2. family

  i've been disfellowshipped for about 5 years and extremely happy to be out.

  my ex wife is still a regular meeting attender and takes our two young kids with her (8 and 6 years old).

  i recently saw some of the caleb and sophia videos on the jw.org website and was completely appalled, i remember what i was taught as a kid growing up in the organization but this seems so much worse and now that i'm out i can plainly see the mind control.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!

  How much time do you get to spend with the kids? Do you have non-JW relatives?

  I'm not a parent, but I was an elder enough to see how these things can go sometimes. My first suggestion would be to get to know what's going on with the kids. Help them to feel really comfortable and relaxed around you.

  They're probably getting programmed to be uptight and defensive around you, their dfd dad. And they're too young to effectively become independent... when they get to their teens, that will come out! Make sure they understand that you love them and will listen to whatever is in their hearts.

  As I remember growing up in WTland, I got plenty of lecturing on what to say, think, and do from my parents and all the KH sheeples. I didn't need someone to ramp up the internal conflict of proJW/antiJW rhetoric. I needed an adult that really listened and cared about me... without all the WT crap.

  While they're young, it can be hard to listen to and understand their thoughts as kids, but it sets the groundwork for a solid future relationship.

  But that's just the opinion of an exJW ex-elder.
  
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  Zone Visit - Sri Lanka Governing Body member David Splane

  by Liyanage in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last sunday (23rd february 2015) we had our zone visit ( visit headquarters representative).

  this time governing body member david splane and brother john ekrann came to sri lanka.

  and they spent almost one week in sri lanka.. .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!

  And he mentioned one publisher give only average of Sri Lanka Rupees 165/- ( Equal to US$ 1.25) for a month. Therefore he encourage to increase the that amount.

  Nothing quite as disgusting as a rich westerner flying out to shake down the locals for more ca$h!
  
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  ...If The "WBT$ GB Rock Star Popes" Sold Their Watches...

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wbt$ gb rock star popes and their fancy watches... .. are "extremely expensive" rolex watches being forced on the wbt$ rock star popes?!!...

  are the watches just rolex "knock offs" so the wbt$ gb rock star popes only "appear wealthy"?!...

  .. geoffrey jackson.

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  Those expensive watches and none of them can tell what time it is.

  WT has been completely wrong for over a hundred years. Does it really matter how many hours and minutes more have passed?
  
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  Top 10 Memorial Excuses

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good excuses.

  pinkeye.

  (highly contagious, and you aren't supposed to touch other people's dishes and glasses.)tuberculosis.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  If the memorial is that important, I'll just catch the highlights on the Interwebsite!
  
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  this week's bible reading leviticus chap 19 - 21 - my opening remarks

  by user100 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so.. some asshole visits another asshole but a mob erupts and wants to rape the visiting asshole.. the host asshole offers his daughter and the visiting asshole's concubine to appease the mob.. sure enough.. the concubine ends up gang raped and murdered.

  in the morning the visiting asshole loads her up on his donkey, takes her home, dismembers her body into 12 pieces and sends it to all the tribes to incite war.. so an army of 22,000 is formed, some prick goes and asks jehovah if they should go and destroy the gang raping mob.. and jehovah says 'yes.. do it.

  they go to fight and loose all 22,000 die.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  This is some fatally flawed logic:
  

  Sometimes Jehovah tests to see how far you will persevere in begging him to get things done.

  22,000 die the first time + 18,000 die the second time. All of those were just being "tested" by jehovah? After they died, how much further could that 40,000 "persevere in begging him to get things done?" Did these dead men pass or fail jehovah's "test"? And I thought jehovah didn't test people with evil, right? Or is seeing 40,000 dead a good test?
  
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  Please Welcome me

  by Sofia Lose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have lurked here for many, many years.

  female, latina, middle-aged, born-in, 3rd generation jw, northeast usa.

  my fate is to continue to play the game 'till death do us part because the very strong and tangled web of friends, family, business, etc.

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  Welcome!
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  Jw Business Cards??? Really???

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i got one from my mother.

  when the hell did they start doing this???.

  i'm guessing this is the way they're going to do it eventually.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  

  Holy Christmas! It looks like the JW is already shaking down this family for money! The way he's got his hand out, they should include a caption like, "When we say "free personal Bible study" it means we're going to personally free you from your money while we distract you with empty promises."
  
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  New "donation" arrangement begins to FAIL

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so here we are, almost a year into the "new" congregation donation arrangement.

  and its beginning, as was predicted, to fail miserably, and to have direct negative consequences on the poor sheep.. let me give you a little experience, directly from our congregation of about 80 publishers.

  back in may, after reading the letter about the "new" arrangement, the elder body decided to "donate" the extra funds on hand to wt, as directed.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  As many said at the time this was implemented, people tend to be overly optimistic about their ability to contribute on those anonymous surveys and as a result, there was an unrealistic amount promised. And the WTS likely knew this was going to be the case.

  I was in a congregation that built an expensive new hall based on what was promised on the "survey" slips. The few months afterward were okay, but the amount collected started dropping to considerably less than promised. Of course all the JWs over-estimated how much they would be able to give. They're constantly told "jehovah will bless your efforts that are in harmony with his will." The sheeples reasoned "if I donate generously, jehovah will pour out his blessing! I'll probably get a raise. My car won't break down. I won't get sick." But the reality was that they amount the congregation had been collecting before the "survey" was already more than most of the dubs could afford.

  "jehovah's blessing" is as phony as the "spiritual paradise"
  
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  Long Time Lurker

  by the comet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it took a few years but i finally decided to join yesterday.

  my background, born-in, still go to meetings for family reasons, i am inactive however.

  if you were to ask when i first woke up i would say 2010 with the overlapping generation garbage.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!

  I was honest and stated my doubts about the generation teaching and the g.b. being led by god.

  I'm wondering how often this elder has already heard, or thought, these same doubts.
  
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  New "donation" arrangement begins to FAIL

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so here we are, almost a year into the "new" congregation donation arrangement.

  and its beginning, as was predicted, to fail miserably, and to have direct negative consequences on the poor sheep.. let me give you a little experience, directly from our congregation of about 80 publishers.

  back in may, after reading the letter about the "new" arrangement, the elder body decided to "donate" the extra funds on hand to wt, as directed.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  WT needs to rely on jehovah for financial support and stop relying on imperfect humans. WT is always telling the sheeples to rely on god and he will provide, so where is he now? If he really is an all-powerful god that created everything, he could create a few gold bars to cover his expenses.